Borderline Personality Disorder

“We’re you just looking at her?!! WE’RE YOU?!!,..I bet you just wanna fuck her don’t you?,.. DON’T YOUUU!!!”

One curious aspect of the manosphere community is it’s tendency to pick up on what I’d call ‘pet pathologies’. It’s very easy and comforting to ascribe a general lack of social intelligence or a retardation in social maturity on Asperger’s Syndrome. I’m not suggesting that Asperger’s isn’t a legitimate pathology, but I think the frequency with which men will conveniently attribute their social awkwardness to it delegitimizes the real illness. Most Betas often report a discomfort with approaches and Game in general because of varying degrees of social anxiety that they’ve internalized for the better part of their lives. So it’s a much simpler premise to attribute this to a psychological disorder than to admit that they’ve got a lot of work ahead of them in unlearning the hinderances the’ve been conditioned to believe about themselves for so long. I’m not saying guys (why is it rarely women?) don’t have Asperger’s, but I think some real introspection is due before prescribing it to themselves.

Another neurosis that gets attributed to women in the manosphere is BPD, Borderline Personality Disorder:


*DSM-IV-TR Diagnostic Criteria A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships,  self-image, and affects, and marked impulsivity beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
 Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment.

A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.

Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.

Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating).
Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.

Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior.

Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).

Chronic feelings of emptiness.

Inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).

Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms.

I struggled with deciding whether to write about this because in our current intergender environment, it’s very easy to conveniently ascribe these symptoms and tendencies to the ‘psycho bitches’ that men often complain about. She’s crazy in bed, but she’s also crazy out of bed. I would doubt that there’s a man dating in the last decade who hasn’t encountered one or some combination of neurosis listed in this clinical diagnosis with a woman he’s dating or has dated. As the gender landscape has mutated in the last 40 years, so to has the variety of  psychoses. So it’s for this reason that I think understanding true BPD neurosis in comparison to the common anxieties of insecurity that women are prone needs to be explored.

True BPDs

I had an LTR with a BPD woman for 4 years when I was in my 20s and I can tell you from experience, it’s nothing to laugh at or take lightly. It’s particularly damaging for AFCs locked into a BPDs negative feedback loop, especially when he’s developed a soul destroying ONEitis with her and associates himself as the source of her depression / psychosis.

True BPDs progressively convince their victims that they are the source of her neurosis. You are not yourself, you are who she’s molding you to be, and eventually you’ll come to believe that it’s in your best interest – indeed, your responsibility – to be who she wants you to be to sustain that neurosis. You will gradually give up on your family and friends (or they give up on you), you will drop all ambitions and passions that directly focus on you, and you will abandon any genuine, independent identity you held for yourself, all because these are threats to the neurotic narrative she constructs for herself and lives out.

She will reward your conversion to her psychosis with intermittent, crazy hot sex, but this is simply the reinforcer to keep you locked into her narrative. The YOU you know will cease to exist and the character she creates for you will take over. This is especially true for beta chumps who see their BPD as their best, only option for a long term romantic prospect. She’s an HB 9 (to him) and he’s never fucked better than a 5 in his whole life, so the risk of catastrophic loss is real and ever-present. It’s fate that brought them together, and if he can only help allay her fears they can live happily ever after.

In the latter stages of a BPD relationship you will get to the point where her overt cuckolding of you is an acceptable situation. You think you’ll mitigate it by negotiating some “open relationship” status with her. You will internalize the reasoning that negotiating for her desire is preferable to losing her. You’ll propose that an open relationship means you’re both free to fuck other parties, when in reality it’s the only way you can rationalize for yourself the fact that she’s going to go fuck other guys, and you’re going to accept it because you’re locked into her neurosis. It’s your fault she feels compelled to fuck other guys – and you’ll believe it. That, or the mere suggestion of you being interested in sex with another woman will send her into fits of jealous, histrionic rage.

You’re living in fear. You’re afraid she’ll commit suicide if you uproot yourself (a classic BPD unspoken threat), but trust me on this, it’ll be you who swallows a bullet long before she ever will. I’ve personally known two men who’ve done just this, and another who hung himself as the result of a BPD relationship. I know it seems like most of the friends you still do have are simply passing you off by saying “get out” and move on, but your life literally depends on you doing so. Cutting you off and disengaging you from external perspectives about your twisted relationship is essential to a BPD’s neurosis. Eventually your friends and family will give up on the ‘new you’.

Also, I must add this, when and if you do finally muster the self-concern enough to actually leave her, expect a complete 180 in her mentality and behavior. One thing a true BPD loathes more than her victim is the thought of having to ensnare another. There are plenty of other AFCs ready to fill that role, but the comfort and easy predictability you represent to her in the present builds an emotional dependency. BPDs will fight like wild animals not to lose their victim; expect an extinction burst from her the likes of which are unimaginable. For a guy so accustomed to her neurotic behavior, his first impression is that she’s making some real change for him in order to “improve the relationship.” It’s not, but so radical a shift in her behavior will convince you otherwise, and cause you to doubt her deception, particularly when you yourself have no options and believe you’ll never do any better than her.


51 Responses to “Borderline Personality Disorder”

  • A.B. Dada

    See: my ex-wife.

    Even a decade later, she’s still absolutely, positively crazy. Stalky crazy.

  • Rollo Tomassi

    I got chills when I proof read this.

  • Dan

    These mental disorders are especially toxic to kids who have mothers who are crazy like this. As in my case, my mother was/is crazy with extreme anger issues (her parents were negative and angry too). Her insecure bf’s have hated and were jealous of me because they knew I was stronger/better than them. For me the saying applied, “What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger” as I was forced to live in this whirlwind. However, as a kid trying to please a crazy/angry mother who will never be happy (my first awareness of hypergamy) began to turn me into an AFC always trying even harder to please women (relatives/church/school) to resolve the anger (as it had to be caused because I wasn’t good enough). With harmful to him gf’s who are crazy, a guy can just next them, but with relatives/church/schools through childhood it becomes the norm. This was before finally learning about game to free myself from this conditioning. I have so much experience with this that now after being around people (especially women) that I can usually after a few sentences/vibe map-out their psychological intent, such as if anyone is angry around me for more than a few minutes (I could fight with them, but I don’t want to associate with angry people) I walk away from them. I have friends who knew before that his gf was Bipolar/BPD (even on meds), but they were AFC and against advice to get away, they thought they could fix her, got married and are now so financially tied up and so miserable they want to divorce but now have kids and believe they are trapped. To the people who are happily married as a family they are fortunate. Therefore, because of my BPD mother, observing my friends also deal with gf’s/wives with BPD, and after learning about/internalizing/living out game; I will never for my own well-being live with women for more than a few days (if we happen to go somewhere for a weekend, thereby inadvertently making myself unattainable that makes women want me even more because they can never have me for more than a few days or months), plus I will never get financially tied up with anyone (especially women) and this personally increases my own independence/freedom/happiness (and women seem to like men like that, but that’s not why I live this way, it’s just a side benefit).

    • some chick who wants to know why she is a target

      YOu know that story sounds really familiar to me. My mom was like this and was a hoarder on top of it. She used to tell me she hated me everyday and that she hated being my mother. And the fucked up thing is I’m adopted. All the things she is still angry about are not my problem.
      I used to work really hard to make sure that I was nothing like her. But it is obvious now that a fun, happy person isn’t what people see when they look at me. Every body sees me as someone who is easily victimized. Or I’m just a manipulative bitch who is trying to get you all to feel sorry for me.
      If I am honest with myself then it has been going on for my entire life. Whole groups of kids on the playground attacked me, and in highschool I was always falling for it in some way or another. Always the butt of everyone’s jokes. I always thought it was mean to play games with people. I always thought I should show others more respect than that. I’m almost thrity and I’m tired of this shit. I can start being manipulative live everyone else and try to get whatever I want out of everybody else, or I can lock myself up in my apartment and live in fear of retaliation from men who hate me. The truth is I learned game and didn’t even know that is what I was doing. I guess somebody just wanted to put me in my place. I must deserve to be dead since that is the kind of stuff men put in women’s heads. I’m glad I know who my real friends are.
      I used to think that one day I would meet a real man. He would see my pain and love me anyway. I know now that isn’t going to happen. I just want to be happy. I don’t need a man to do that. I need lots of fucking rock and roll and a sledge hammer so I can break some shit.
      And I never want to be in the hospital agian. I’m not going into any void, in fact there was never a void with in me. ONly a beautiful garden where my soul dwelled waiting for someone to find me. Now it is a wasteland. Nothing grows. If I had wanted to die when I was a little girl it was only to make the abuse and pain stop. I clung to God instead. I would never kill myself. That’s why I’m posting stupid messages on a site that will probably only come back to bite me. Bring it on. I don’t give a fuck anymore. If you want me dead then fucking kill me. But don’t expect me to go down without a fight.

  • xsplat

    BPD is just and extreme version of being a woman. I’ve estimates of it’s prevalence among women ranging from from 4% to 18%.

    So nearly all men have dated women who occasionally show BPD traits, and most of us will at some time date at least one full blown BPD nutjob.

    I’ve heard it said that at least twice as many women as men have this. Aspergers is more common among men. It’s a sex biased developmental fuck up.

    In the case of BPD I’m not convinced that what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. It can be damaging as well. We can learn some valuable nexting skills through the experiences, and also tone down our romanticism. We must conversely also lose some abilities to bond.

    • Raider

      Sadly I think that’s very true: BPD is just an extreme version of a normal American woman. Which is why women never want to talk about BPD – they all have a gal-pal who is just like that, maybe a sister … or maybe she just needs to look in the mirror.

      I, too, got the chills reading this. My ex-wife to a “t” in all ways. Truly crazy, malignantly so: multiple suicide attempts (some convincingly faked to manipulate me, some very real, right before my eyes), gunplay, hardcore violence, etc. The Full BPD Monty. Imagine what that divorce was like.

      Tragically she has my kids since, this being the USA, there’s really nothing she could do save murdering my son in front of a judge, to lose custody.

      • A.B. Dada

        Yeah, my ex-wife had a suicide attempt where she literally bled all over my brand new linens that she “told” me to buy just a few weeks earlier. $1800 down the tube.

        Lucky for me, I never knocked her up. Holy shit that was an entire platoon’s worth of bullets I dodged.

        • A.B. Dada

          More fucked up stories about my personal life story! Look how callous and cool I am!

          • dc1000

            hahaha ok I get it now. let the mocking continue

          • A.B. Dada

            I own around 15 or so trolls on the web. For some reason, they seem to have plenty of time to try to rile me up, but over the years it just seems to build reputation rather than degrade it.

            Trolls will be trolls, yours truly included.

        • YaReally

          How much did something you did cost again? Could you drop in a dollar amount of some sort? And were you traveling to, from, or in some exotic location on one of your many business ventures? Did you rock climb or skydive while you were there? I’m really curious!!!

          • YaReally

            Oops that was a reply to the troll. Now it just seems mean-spirited lol

          • NoReally

            Can you tell us again about how many women leap on your cock the instant you walk into a club? And how badass you are because bouncers love you and pay YOU money to come in?

          • YaReally

            10 as soon as I walk through the door. 0 once those 10 walk out of the men’s room stall looking disappointed. :(

      • xsplat

        Roughly 10% of people with BPD successfully suicide.

        So the suicide attempts aren’t always only bogus.

        Real or not though, it’s no form of blackmail anyone should have to put up with. Which is why when dealing with BPD the main and most important issue is the escape strategy.

      • xsplat

        Clarification: the escape strategy is important not to avoid her killing herself – it’s to avoid negative repercussions to yourself from her freak out when you leave.

        And I hear you about the living hell stuff. I seemed to have decided that I needed to go through BPD hell multiple times.

        I seemed to have had enough kicks to the head to learn something though. Last year a girl had an abandonment freak out and pulled out out a knife and threatened to cut, and I just pushed her aside and starting walking out the door. Of course she grabbed me and physically wouldn’t let me go. I had to swat her arm out of the way, which she let swing wildly into the doorframe. The convenient bruise was later used as a blackmail threat of abuse against me. She went so far as to later claim that she had gotten a Dr.s report on it. And to claim that she was pregnant by me. Four months pregnant. And so on and worse.

        This time at the first sign of BPD traits – even though none had surfaced in 5 months of living together, I withdrew, and kept withdrawing as she escalated her retaliatory crazy. It was a relationship death spiral of revenge against abandonment causing the inevitable abandonment. It could have gotten deadly fucking scary had I not just disappeared from town.

        So I suppose that’s showing some signs of improvement on my part. Years ago I would have remained invested in the relationship, even after the knife came out.

        • A.B. Dada

          This is when it’s important to have your smartphone recording in your pocket if you EVER interact with someone in the future who has BPD.

          I don’t let them have a second try — not even friends. But if I know a guy is dating a gal who has these “freak outs”, I tell them to record those freakouts, store them safely away in MP3 format, and if the gal ever threatens them, just let her know you’ve recorded all of her abusive comments in the past.

          In some states, you can’t legally use 1-party recordings, but it usually will get you off the hook for having to manhandle a bitch who is threatening you already.

        • Anton

          Yes, BPDs rather routinely claim to be pregnant, then when no baby shows up, to have had a miscarriage. Should be in the DSM…

          • some chick who wants to know why she is a target

            Once again, I was accused of being the kind of woman who does this. That isn’t true. It never was. I am so insulted and so angry about being insulted! I know you guys reading these posts are saying to yourselves oh here goes another one!
            I tried to explain to this guy my values and my perspective on the women who trick men by getting pregnant, but he didn’t beleive me or wasn’t listening. THIS IS SO FUCKING UNFAIR!
            You men are such fools. All of you. I used to love men. I had such respect.
            I’m just here to let you know that there are women who value thier children enough to protect them before they are even born by not getting pregnant with out a husband.

            Thank you game for taking away my desire to even have babies.

            None of you care! You all work together to make women hate themselves so you can have threesomes video tape women with out them knowing and cut them down at every turn.
            I was never trying to trap anyone with a baby and I never would. I don’t need a man to make me happy. I am more than pretty enough even if I’m not a six fool tall blond. I am smart, yes even smarter than most of you. Yes I do have issues from the past and no I don’t want you to solve them. Yes I want you to be more successful. Yes I think it is sleazy to live the lifestyle of a fucking whore. Yes I am angry and I always will hate men because of YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            If any of you men want to know how to keep a good woman then don’t take advice from the PUA fools once you get the girl. LEAVE ALL THIS BULLSHIT BEHIND AND LOVE HER!
            SOME PART OF HER CAN SEE THROUGH ALL THIS AND SHE IS WITH YOU BECAUSE OF WHO YOU REALLY ARE. Don’t be that guy.

      • xsplat

        If you think BPD is an extreme version of being an American woman, you’ve not yet been to SE Asia. I’m certain it is far more prevalent here.

        It is a developmental disorder that may have often include genetic predispositions and usually includes environmental triggers such as childhood abuse, especially sexual abuse. Incest is insanely common in SE Asia.

  • Rollo Tomassi

    When I was dealing with my BPD in the early-mid 90′s there was no clinical diagnosis for BPD. It was all “that’s just how women are”. Only when I got to university and studied psychology did I really connect the dots and realize the amazing clusterfuck I endured – and how fortunate I was to have gotten out with my life.

    I can’t even begin to describe the oppressive jealousy, the public fighting and bitching, followed by porn movie sex, then get religious guilt, and then have her see some magazine cover with a bikini model on it in line at a grocery store and she’d fly into some new jealous hysterics.

  • A.B. Dada

    I just. cant. stop. talking. about. myself. ever. EVER

  • JG

    Dan said:

    “Therefore, because of my BPD mother, observing my friends also deal with gf’s/wives with BPD, and after learning about/internalizing/living out game; I will never for my own well-being live with women for more than a few days (if we happen to go somewhere for a weekend, thereby inadvertently making myself unattainable that makes women want me even more because they can never have me for more than a few days or months), plus I will never get financially tied up with anyone (especially
    women) and this personally increases my own independence/freedom/happiness (and women seem to like men like that, but that’s not why I live this way, it’s just a side benefit).

    My experience is not far from yours, though not quite as intense. I don’t blame you for not wanting to go through that. Having been through something like that myself I swore I would never allow that to happen in my adult years. And I’ve kept my promise to myself.

  • Deep Dish

    Are there any realistic movies on BPD? I’ve seen Fatal Attraction and Girl Interrupted (watched it a few nights ago). I understand Girl Interrupted highlighted a few characteristics but wasn’t a comprehensive portrayal, and I don’t know how realistic was Fatal Attraction.

  • Dan

    Respectfully A.B. with good humor; It sounds like maybe A.B. was the inspiration for the songs by Gwen, “Sweet Escape” and “Keep on Dancing.” Ha. Just joking around.

  • D-Man

    Getting involved with certain women, unprepared, can really take a toll on a guy. They can certainly fry your nervous system and make you question your own sanity and most deeply held beliefs. The White Knight in you will be bloodied.

    You will emerge – if you’re lucky – with a generous ration of bitter cynicism, a healthier set of boundaries, and a hair-trigger red flag mechanism. I liken this to an immunity of sorts.

    I wrote a fake online dating ad awhile back, never intending to post it.

    I pretend to be looking for one of these girls, since I’m so used to them by now, and they seem to be getting more common. In it, I coldly detail a remarkable array of traits and behaviors eerily shared by two women with whom I had relationships.

    Fantastically cathartic.

  • Dan

    Listening to Avicii “Levels (Original Mix)” and 2 Unlimited “Get Ready For This” and thinking, maybe a good thing about this for game would be to figure that basically all women are crazy. This 1. protects yourself from getting too caught up with any particular woman only to have her go crazy and harm you because you are prepared for the possibility of it and your exit before hand, and 2. when approaching/interacting with women her looks don’t matter (in that some guys are thrown off by the looks of some women) so figuring she’s crazy takes the focus off of her looks to just have the confidence to approach/open.

  • Aaron

    The worst is the radical skepticism about all of your own thoughts and perceptions. This only lasted a very short while with me before I made the comparison to reading the writing of postmodernists/certain continental philosophers: many people read this shit and think, “I must be too stupid to get this profundity!” But we know it is really they who are incoherent.

    The one simplest and most important thing to do is establish boundaries and don’t budge a fucking inch. She might cry, she might call you “mean” or “cruel,” or something comparable, but this is just manipulation; she’s trying to marginalize your feelings about your personal space by labeling them something which is too vague to refute. (It functions like shame words such as “racist” and “sexist” in politics.) Don’t give her your email password, don’t let her read your texts. If she tries to read your fucking texts tell her off. Say “no, it’s my phone, I don’t try to read your shit.” If she’s not too severe a nutcase she’ll leave it and try to act cutesy knowing she crossed a line, if she’s a real cunt she’ll make an argument out of how you don’t pay enough attention to her blah blah blah blah blah.

    The ammunition you’ll always have derives from the BPD’s Achilles heel: she does WHATEVER SHE WANTS at all times while constantly giving you shit but any and everything you do, from the large to the completely trivial. Because of this dynamic there are always plenty of examples of hypocrisy on her part you can point out.

    • Aaron

      (e.g. she’ll freely swear and call you any name or curse word, but if you do it back just once you won’t get out of that argument without a few scratch marks on your hands.)

  • anonymous x

    Google “walking on eggshells” for the literature that is now available for it that wasn’t available 20 years ago. I still shiver when I think about mine yet she wasn’t as bad as others I’ve heard of. I will say though that while many women do have flashes of this behavior, not nearly so many are full blown BPD. Vitally important to distinguish the latter from the rest if an LTR is your goal.

    Play Misty For Me is another BPD at the movies.

  • anonymous

    But are there ANY girls, at all, who can fully say they have none of the above “symptoms” ever, at all? I doubt it. There’s no such thing as a White Knightress either, right? I like this blog, it’s smart. I’m interested in knowing more about the female perspective though. Because for now the PUA blogs seem to portray women as scheming yet attractive egg layers. Or do you know of any smart female counterparts to this blog, something that would make sense of it both ways? Big up for writing though.

    • Aaron

      I’ve been on the look out for this for a while now, but it’s rare/non-existent. Google “shrink for men” and go to that wordpress blog for a woman talking about it…but she’s in total agreement with everyone here. I’ve heard another female shrink say “men and women perceive things differently, women place importance on feelings before facts, and men facts before feelings.” Which was a polite concession that many women are simply a bit nutty. Imagine trying to settle a disagreement like that outside a relationship, say in the workplace? “Oh John and Mike have different argumentation styles; with John it’s about how he feels regardless of facts, but with Mike it’s just about the facts.”

    • some chick who wants to know why she is a target

      You know I think you are right. Our society has created a systematic destruction of the female psyches. Every one is divorced so all daughters have some kind of issues with thier fathers. So it’s easy to assume that all women have the same “daddy issue” thing going on. Or what ever kind of psychosis you want to assign to her, the problem is, none of you are professionals. And none of you wait to get to know the girl long enough to determine who she is. Spending a few nights stalking her through a bar does not count as getting to know her.
      Some of us are mean for a lot of different reasons. Our bad attitudes are not indicative of mental illness. But it’s easy to drive a woman over the edge isn’t it? Makes it look like you are the white knight.
      Why don’t men and women treat the issues of communication the way we would on the job? It can work and make it easier for people to get along. People who manipulate others at work are psychopaths. But if a man is manipulative with women then he is someone to be honored and emulated.
      Women are not making war on men. IT’s the other way around. How many chicks do you know who are posting to forums on strategic methods to get phone numbers. We just want to find one of you to love.
      We are not reading the art of war and figuring out how to make you into slaves. The things we want from men, like taking out the trash to us are symbols that you respect and love us. We want to feel safe, respected, loved and listened to. Then we will give you food and listen to you and do stuff that is fun, and we will have sex with you.
      Some chicks aren’t really that hung up on social conventions, even if she beleives in God or whatever, she can make certain concessions because of how our society is and what men’s expectations are. That probably isn’t fair to her, she could just be celebate. Men are so obessed with thier own boundaires, but they don’t give a damn about women’s boundaries. This PUA crap teaches you guys to be very selfish.
      IF a woman says she like you but she doesn’t want to fuck you then you need to do three things:
      1- Get to know her more. and let her tell YOU who SHE is. SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LISTEN
      2-SHOW HER THAT YOU LIKE HER IF YOU CAN’t THEN DON”T BOTHER
      3-GIVE HER WHAT SHE ASKS FOR IN BED, NOT WHAT YOU THINK SHE WANTS. AND IF SHE DOESN’T WANT TO HAVE SEX RIGHT THEN THEN LET IT BE.

  • qwerty@uiop.nl

    A partner with BPD is no cakewalk. They’re women with all the bads (hysterical, helpless, manipulative) and goods (sexy, feminine) womanisms amplified, excepting the normal ones (homely, family-oriented). You’d do well to never get involved with them, but most man will never be this wise. They’ll only see the seductive appearance and will fall for it, try it out. “It won’t be this bad…” Again and again.

    Angelina Jolie in “Gia” is the most powerful depiction of low-functioning BPD I ever saw. Thankfully she only ruined herself. Fatal Attraction, up until the bunny boiler scene (in which she transformed more into a psychopath), also did a pretty good job. Most other BPD films go overboard and do not describe the little mindfuck games that make it such a hellish ride. Bunny boilers are too big, it’s the rage meltdown you’ll get when you forgot something from the grocery list.

    Anyway, I’ve seen some memes on the net indicating that cutters/BPDs make good lays, maybe. But that’s like saying coke can be cool (I wouldn’t know.) If you know that cocaine is addictive and bad for your health, then don’t do it.

    “The one simplest and most important thing to do is establish boundaries and don’t budge a fucking inch”

    That’s entirely wrong. Try it with a real BPD. It will not work. If a normal person tries to reason with a crazy person day in day out, the normal person will, over time, give in little by little. The battle is unequal. You will argue with reason and fairness, while the other side will continuously attack you with everything in its range. To them the goal isn’t to compromise, but to have you surrender. And the better question is: Why would you want to be with someone who doesn’t let you be yourself in the first place?

    • some chick who wants to know why she is a target

      So I have a question, what if the guy who is playing the game assumes that the woman he’s playing is a BPD and takes preemptive measures to make sure that the woman goes down that path? Even to the point of encouraging suicide?

      I’m not trying to say that I’m a perfect woman. I do understand and have always understood that I have my own issues. I got picked up by a guy who was insistent that I am crazy simply because I wanted him to stop running sets and listen to what I wanted so that we could both enjoy the sex. Yes I wanted a relationship. Before I met him I was just a girl trying to figure out where I fit in the world and I was not interested in meeting anybody. It wasn’t like I thought I was the shit, but I was actively working on my own social skills and self confidence.

      Apparently he used a little compulsive attraction sets, of course the Negs and double binds, a few nested loops to ensure that every song I heard on the radio reminded me of him, and to make sure that I looked him up on-line and remember remember remember his phone number.

      Could this possibly be a bunch of information that might produce some of the symptoms we are talking about? How about a death set? Would that make someone’s going onto suicide watch seem a little suspicious? What would be the motivation for doing this?

      • Maciano

        I guess there are some sick puppies out there who have an axe to grind with women or BPDs, either out of past grievences or sheer pleasure for seeing someone suffer. Both are cruel intentions, both are only found among people who should look in the mirror and face some inner demons first. Why would someone steer a BPD, whatever shrew she might be, into suicide? That man is a sick character himself.

        OTOH, BPDs have a way of twisting something unfortunate that happened — getting used by a guy for sex, harshly dumped while being in love — into something that happened to them specifically out of sheer malice, cartoonish evil. An irrational woman-hater trying to push a former love interest into suicide is pretty much the kind of ridiculous accusation a BPD would make.

        Anyway, normal people can do a great of harm to other normal people. as well. Maybe you and your former flame should try some self-reflection: how come I and he, even though we initially liked each other, try to hurt each other this much? Anger is seldom without source. Maybe you’l realize a few things you shouldn’t have done, things you should change; maybe you’ll notice a few things you shouldn’t tolerate from now on, things you can screen new love interests for.

  • Aaron

    That’s entirely wrong. Try it with a real BPD.

    I meant when you’re in any relationship, especially a new one, establish boundaries this way and it will filter out the crazies from the non-crazies. But yes if she is really BPD it’s always an uphill battle because you’re constricting yourself with reason and conscience.

    • Maciano

      “I meant when you’re in any relationship, especially a new one, establish boundaries this way and it will filter out the crazies from the non-crazies.”

      I agree with this 100%.

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  • lee

    I think I might have this problem. Any chance you could shoot me an email to give me some advice?

  • JJ

    Well, I had an on again, off again with a BPD chick for 3 years. Last go round was my last, at least for me. I was done, and began to withdraw. She left in a rage after biting my hand while trying to pry my phone away from me. Well, two weeks later she texts me that she is pregnant. I meet her, trying to do the right thing. After 2 weeks of utter insanity and entitlement peppered with lots of domestic violence on her part, I filed a protective order and felony charges for theft. 2 months ago she attempted to re-engage me by coming into my home. I asked her to leave she didn’t so I called police. 7 months pregnant and all they arrested her and she spent the night in the tank. Baby girl due this month and I am fighting for primary custody with the plan of limiting her visitation as much as possible. I have a strong case.

    She tried to steal a baby, my money, and attempted to hi-jack my life.

    BPD is BPD. Letting these women think they can meander around society screwing with people and creating chaos just because they are hormonal creatures is nonsense. These people are the complete bag of nuts. 70 years ago they would have been locked up. As for my BPD ex, I have no mercy for her and will stop at nothing to reduce her to emotional rubble.

    If you run across one of these predators run for the hills. When you are too tired to run, walk, crawl or do whatever. They are truly emotional vampires to no soul (can’t be a soulmate with the soul-less)….

  • Pete

    I agree. Stand up to them or get the fuck out. During the honeymoon phase, this crazy nut convinced me she was the real thing. Pregnant within a few months and started acting out. Once the baby was born, she was out the door. It is ok for them to behave in a crazy emotionally irrational way but don’t show any signs of frustration. I was lucky cause she doesn’t want me, yet.

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